Could Kong show up in the world of Godzilla?
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Oh please no. Kong would also need roids to fit in a modern Toho universe and of course another crossover is gonna result from this. I could see something like another King Kong Escapes but I imagine legal loopholes would make this very challenging to come to fruition.
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Except Toho could just wait for Kong to be public domain so they don't need to worry about any loopholes.Omegazilla wrote:Oh please no. Kong would also need roids to fit in a modern Toho universe and of course another crossover is gonna result from this. I could see something like another King Kong Escapes but I imagine legal loopholes would make this very challenging to come to fruition.
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Well, Toho "roided" up Kong before, and as you pointed out Legendary is doing the same thing and crossover with him now, so what's the problem? He shouldn't be any harder to do than last time. And as has been pointed out, King Kong is soon to be in public domain, and versions of him already are.Omegazilla wrote:Oh please no. Kong would also need roids to fit in a modern Toho universe and of course another crossover is gonna result from this. I could see something like another King Kong Escapes but I imagine legal loopholes would make this very challenging to come to fruition.
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I like Kong, and I like KKVG, but I now want Kong to remain an American monster, and post KVG be his own separate thing. Kong is an American monster, and works best in that context. I’d prefer honestly for Toho to make more new monsters as well.
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I'd rather the Gargantuas take Kongs spot in any future Toho films.
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Re: Could Kong show up in the world of Godzilla?
I'd be down with Kong being in future Godzilla films, but I can understand people wanting him to stick to being an American kaiju. If Kong can't be brought back, then perhaps other kaiju like King Caesar or Mechani-Kong could fill his role.
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American isn't using Kong anyway actively and Godzilla is a duel national monster now, so why can't Kong?Kiryu2012 wrote:I'd be down with Kong being in future Godzilla films, but I can understand people wanting him to stick to being an American kaiju. If Kong can't be brought back, then perhaps other kaiju like King Caesar or Mechani-Kong could fill his role.
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I wouldn't want to see Mechani-Kong without King Kong. Just makes no sense to have one and bar the other.Kiryu2012 wrote:I'd be down with Kong being in future Godzilla films, but I can understand people wanting him to stick to being an American kaiju. If Kong can't be brought back, then perhaps other kaiju like King Caesar or Mechani-Kong could fill his role.
Of course I'm also against keeping Kong an "American kaiju" only. I like the two old Kong movies Toho did back in the day. On the flip side I like the recent American Godzilla movies. I say if Godzilla can come over her then Kong can go to Japan just as well.
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The problem is going to be another silly out of character Kong. Regardless it might happen in the future as throwing him in with Godzilla is almost as second nature as Aliens and Predators now. Sticking with a KKE type movie in the same universe would be a lot better and without making something silly like Kong and his electric fetish. Notice how the KKE version of Kong didn't have any silly out of character buffs to make him equal to his opponent yet it still worked and felt like Kong. The same could certainly be done again against Mechani-Kong or whatever the antagonist might be.Vakanai wrote:Well, Toho "roided" up Kong before, and as you pointed out Legendary is doing the same thing and crossover with him now, so what's the problem? He shouldn't be any harder to do than last time. And as has been pointed out, King Kong is soon to be in public domain, and versions of him already are.Omegazilla wrote:Oh please no. Kong would also need roids to fit in a modern Toho universe and of course another crossover is gonna result from this. I could see something like another King Kong Escapes but I imagine legal loopholes would make this very challenging to come to fruition.
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Out of character? He had one real film, and his character was pretty much "perverted monkey like pretty blonde woman". He doesn't have to repeat the original movie every incarnation. And honestly, I don't know why the electric thing keeps getting brought up, it was just a weird thing Toho decided to do and you don't need it to make him a threat to Godzilla.Omegazilla wrote:The problem is going to be another silly out of character Kong. Regardless it might happen in the future as throwing him in with Godzilla is almost as second nature as Aliens and Predators now. Sticking with a KKE type movie in the same universe would be a lot better and without making something silly like Kong and his electric fetish. Notice how the KKE version of Kong didn't have any silly out of character buffs to make him equal to his opponent yet it still worked and felt like Kong. The same could certainly be done again against Mechani-Kong or whatever the antagonist might be.Vakanai wrote:Well, Toho "roided" up Kong before, and as you pointed out Legendary is doing the same thing and crossover with him now, so what's the problem? He shouldn't be any harder to do than last time. And as has been pointed out, King Kong is soon to be in public domain, and versions of him already are.Omegazilla wrote:Oh please no. Kong would also need roids to fit in a modern Toho universe and of course another crossover is gonna result from this. I could see something like another King Kong Escapes but I imagine legal loopholes would make this very challenging to come to fruition.
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Re: Could Kong show up in the world of Godzilla?
There are a few outside monsters I'd like to see crossover into the Toho Godzilla films.
Gamera and Daimajin are near the top of my list, but I'd like to see Kong too.
Gamera and Daimajin are near the top of my list, but I'd like to see Kong too.
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If this happens,i hope they bring back the black fur. Idk Kong looks better with it.
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I want Toho to finally do a Gamera crossover. Toho might have an advantage there since Gamera quite literally has nothing going for it... so you can easily have Godzilla “win” I think. And if Kadakowa says no.. then oh well, their loss and Toho moves on.
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That's exactly why they just won't do it. Gamera is not a viable character to use and Japan,never will be and never was. There's no reason to crossover with the much lesser known property which if anything ain't giving you much money. This goes for the the World of Godzilla and it especially goes for the MonsterVerse.Cookson wrote:I want Toho to finally do a Gamera crossover. Toho might have an advantage there since Gamera quite literally has nothing going for it... so you can easily have Godzilla “win” I think. And if Kadakowa says no.. then oh well, their loss and Toho moves on.
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From a putrid storyline perspective Toho not wanting God to lose is petty.
Gamera was the hero in every movie expect the first two, Godzilla has switched between hero and villain sever times and Toho seems to like him in the antagonist role. Gamera could easily save the day by simply driving Godzilla off after an epic battle.
Or do a team film lol.
Gamera was the hero in every movie expect the first two, Godzilla has switched between hero and villain sever times and Toho seems to like him in the antagonist role. Gamera could easily save the day by simply driving Godzilla off after an epic battle.
Or do a team film lol.
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I see no reason why he couldn't just be liquidated into Toho similar to Shazam and DC. Outside of the pure business part of it of course.tyrantgoji wrote:That's exactly why they just won't do it. Gamera is not a viable character to use and Japan,never will be and never was. There's no reason to crossover with the much lesser known property which if anything ain't giving you much money. This goes for the the World of Godzilla and it especially goes for the MonsterVerse.Cookson wrote:I want Toho to finally do a Gamera crossover. Toho might have an advantage there since Gamera quite literally has nothing going for it... so you can easily have Godzilla “win” I think. And if Kadakowa says no.. then oh well, their loss and Toho moves on.
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Gamera might not be a viable Kaiju globally, but it could be a big event in Japan. Honestly, I think Kadakowa would sell Gamera for 10 million. They just aren’t doing anything so to them 10 million would be a lot. That’s ONE film Toho would lose(movies cost roughly that but can gain double easily). It would be an investment for Toho and the Japanese box office. Now admittedly it wouldn’t be anything special if/when released theatrically in global markets except for die hard fans.
The only reason I bring this up is I feel Toho is a much different company now. The way they speak about Godzilla now is pretty awesome. They recognize there’s opportunities. Why not go for it and turn Gamera into a full blown Toho Kaiju?
** I could be totally wrong about Kadakowa selling Gamera for 10 million.
The only reason I bring this up is I feel Toho is a much different company now. The way they speak about Godzilla now is pretty awesome. They recognize there’s opportunities. Why not go for it and turn Gamera into a full blown Toho Kaiju?
** I could be totally wrong about Kadakowa selling Gamera for 10 million.
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Nah, Gamera by my estimates is pretty irrelevant in Japan. I haven’t met a single person who is interested in Gamera since I got here, most vintage toy stores lack a lot of Gamera stuff or any sort of cross promotional IP tie ins or anything. I’m sure you could reboot Gamera, don’t get me wrong, but I just don’t think there’s any big desire to.Cookson wrote:Gamera might not be a viable Kaiju globally, but it could be a big event in Japan. Honestly, I think Kadakowa would sell Gamera for 10 million. They just aren’t doing anything so to them 10 million would be a lot. That’s ONE film Toho would lose(movies cost roughly that but can gain double easily). It would be an investment for Toho and the Japanese box office. Now admittedly it wouldn’t be anything special if/when released theatrically in global markets except for die hard fans.
The only reason I bring this up is I feel Toho is a much different company now. The way they speak about Godzilla now is pretty awesome. They recognize there’s opportunities. Why not go for it and turn Gamera into a full blown Toho Kaiju?
** I could be totally wrong about Kadakowa selling Gamera for 10 million.
Because Gamera is a Godzilla clone, I also doubt Toho would want to touch Gamera or have it associated with their IP.
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Toho would only be gaining from adding Gamera. Assuming that Toho wanted to try a long winning story across several films, having Godzilla, Gamera and Mothra facing off with Legion would be cool to see.
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Not really. I highly doubt that there’s any Gamera fans that are unaware of Godzilla or not already Godzilla fans. It’s not appealing to anyone that isn’t already interested in the genre.miguelnuva wrote:Toho would only be gaining from adding Gamera. Assuming that Toho wanted to try a long winning story across several films, having Godzilla, Gamera and Mothra facing off with Legion would be cool to see.