75 Godzilla vs 99 Godzilla?

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75 Godzilla vs 99 Godzilla?

Postby miguelnuva » Fri Apr 13, 2012 2:53 am

Now due to destroy all Monsters being made in 68 but set in 99 Godzilla's fighting style still reflects his early Showa fighting style more than his late Showa fighting style that appeared in the 70's.

Now if 75 Godzilla is Showa Godzilla at his best are we to assume that 99 Showa Godzilla is stronger, the same or weaker than his 75 self?
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Re: 75 Godzilla vs 99 Godzilla?

Postby MaxRebo320 » Fri Apr 13, 2012 4:25 am

It is possible that the 99 Godzilla is an adult Minilla.
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Re: 75 Godzilla vs 99 Godzilla?

Postby Kiryu2012 » Fri Apr 13, 2012 6:01 am

Most likely 99 Godzilla is Minya grown up, and the previous Godzilla died of old age.
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Re: 75 Godzilla vs 99 Godzilla?

Postby Goji » Fri Apr 13, 2012 6:44 am

Godzilla '68's fighting style is the way it was because he was portrayed by Nakajima, and the Godzilla's from '73'-'75 were portrayed by three different actors...Time has nothing to do with any of it. As fans, we just need to ignore the fact that the films after DAM take place before it, chronologically.

I don't even understand the comparison to begin with. We know nothing about Godzilla in GODZILLA 2000, other than he's attacked Japan at least once before. Making crazy fan assumptions about his "power" is....well, just pointless, really. Additionally: Who cares?

Kiryu2012 wrote:Most likely 99 Godzilla is Minya grown up, and the previous Godzilla died of old age.


No.

I doubt the 24 years between TERROR OF MECAHGODZILLA and DESTROY ALL MONSTERS were enough for Godzilla to "die of old age". Even then, where would the other Minya have come from? :eh:
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Re: 75 Godzilla vs 99 Godzilla?

Postby MaxRebo320 » Fri Apr 13, 2012 6:48 am

Well, it is possible Godzilla died of something else, possibly in battle. Remember, 20 years have passed.
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Re: 75 Godzilla vs 99 Godzilla?

Postby Goji » Fri Apr 13, 2012 6:55 am

You're really reaching at straws dude. It's the same Godzilla.
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Re: 75 Godzilla vs 99 Godzilla?

Postby JAGzilla » Fri Apr 13, 2012 7:07 am

Yes, it's obviously the same Godzilla. Minya's presence in DAM should be proof of that. As for Godzilla's fighting style changes... well, was it ever stated how long he was imprisoned at Monsterland? Could be he just got rusty from sitting around for a few years.

I personally, however, am inclined to ignore the timeline. I just treat DAM as being set between SoG and AMA. As of the end of SoG, if memory serves, we had logical explanations for how all of the monsters could've been captured, most being 'dead' or otherwise incapacitated from events in prior movies. It also takes care of minor details like Godzilla's personality/fighting style changes.
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Re: 75 Godzilla vs 99 Godzilla?

Postby MaxRebo320 » Fri Apr 13, 2012 11:28 am

Everybody is entitled to their own personal canon.
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Re: 75 Godzilla vs 99 Godzilla?

Postby Goji » Fri Apr 13, 2012 11:31 am

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Re: 75 Godzilla vs 99 Godzilla?

Postby TokyoVigilante » Fri Apr 13, 2012 12:17 pm

Yes, everyone can be entitled to their own canon. But if any kind of practical or constructive discussion is going to happen about the canon or the way the films interact, then everyone has to be on the same page and the easiest way for that is to take the what the films say as the truth.

I don't see any point in disregarding one of the few pieces of hard factual information we ever get out of it "feeling better". It makes alot more sense to have a solid timeline of starting in '54 then coming to a climax in '99.
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Re: 75 Godzilla vs 99 Godzilla?

Postby Tamura » Fri Apr 13, 2012 12:24 pm

MaxRebo320 wrote:It is possible that the 99 Godzilla is an adult Minilla.


It is possible that the 99 Godzilla is Godzilla.
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Re: 75 Godzilla vs 99 Godzilla?

Postby Megalon-5 » Fri Apr 13, 2012 12:31 pm

I really think Honda and everyone else didn't care if Godzilla died or Minya grew up or such. It was the "final" film of the series, of course they're going to throw in everybody no matter if they died or not. They wanted to make a good film first and worry about continuity later.

Also, the whole "I'm entitled to my personal canon" business is silly. Of course you're free to view the films as you'd like to view them, but that doesn't make it canon for everyone else. :P
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Re: 75 Godzilla vs 99 Godzilla?

Postby MaxRebo320 » Fri Apr 13, 2012 12:46 pm

Take it this way. There is no place that says the 1999 Godzilla is Minilla, but there is also no place that says he isn't.
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Re: 75 Godzilla vs 99 Godzilla?

Postby Megalon-5 » Fri Apr 13, 2012 12:49 pm

There's no place that says King Kong isn't a mutated yeti from Half Human, but there's no place that says he isn't.
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Re: 75 Godzilla vs 99 Godzilla?

Postby GotengoXGodzilla » Fri Apr 13, 2012 12:49 pm

MaxRebo320 wrote:Take it this way. There is no place that says the 1999 Godzilla is Minilla, but there is also no place that says he isn't.


Because it doesn't need to be said. It's obvious that the 1999 Godzilla isn't Minya, otherwise Minya wouldn't be there.
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Re: 75 Godzilla vs 99 Godzilla?

Postby Tamura » Fri Apr 13, 2012 12:57 pm

If Godzilla '99 was Minya, wouldn't they have just called him Minya? This isn't Pokémon; when characters evolve in the Tohoverse they hold on to their original names (except for Megaguirus).
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Re: 75 Godzilla vs 99 Godzilla?

Postby Hellspawn28 » Fri Apr 13, 2012 1:04 pm

Godzilla's life span was never explain, I really don't see how anyone think Godzilla in DAM is Minya? It makes no sense when Minya is in the film himself? I guess it takes years for Minya to grow into full size over time?
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Re: 75 Godzilla vs 99 Godzilla?

Postby Megalon-5 » Fri Apr 13, 2012 1:05 pm

Tamura wrote: This isn't Pokémon.


What's that? Minya's evolving!

Your Minya evolved into Godzilla!
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Re: 75 Godzilla vs 99 Godzilla?

Postby MaxRebo320 » Fri Apr 13, 2012 1:08 pm

GotengoXGodzilla wrote:
MaxRebo320 wrote:Take it this way. There is no place that says the 1999 Godzilla is Minilla, but there is also no place that says he isn't.


Because it doesn't need to be said. It's obvious that the 1999 Godzilla isn't Minya, otherwise Minya wouldn't be there.


Where did the first Minya come from? Exactly.
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Re: 75 Godzilla vs 99 Godzilla?

Postby Tamura » Fri Apr 13, 2012 1:08 pm

Megalon-5 wrote:What's that? Minya's evolving!

Your Minya evolved into Godzilla!


I lol'd. Someone should make a .gif out of that.
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