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I thought it'd be interesting to have a thread devoted to the discussion of loose-ends that were presented in the Showa series, a few examples of this are: Just who was pulling the strings for the Red Bamboo and what became of them? What became of the Commander of Planet X when he exclaimed he was "Escaping Into The Future"? What became of the survivor in Matango who was shown to be partially infected? Was Latitude Zero real, or was it just a dream?
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1. They were working alone as a independent terror cell. They were killed by Ebirah when they tried to flee in their ship
2. He was referring to the afterlife
3. He was gunned down by a couple of disgusted police men that found him roaming around the docks
4. Real
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Just a heads up, the correct term is "loose ends". You tie up loose ends :)
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Just who was pulling the strings for the Red Bamboo and what became of them?
Shhh! The Octopus wrote:1. They were working alone as a independent terror cell. They were killed by Ebirah when they tried to flee in their ship
The Red Bamboo have way too many resources to be an independent terror cell - they can afford the equipment and materials needed to create nukes!

Personally, I think they were getting help from the Black Hole Aliens. It would explain how the Red Bamboo got so much advanced equipment, and how the Black Hole Aliens knew about Godzilla.

It makes sense, too. If I were the Black Hole Aliens, I would definitely want to destabilise the planet by giving nukes to terrorists, it would make invading so much easier. And if that didn't work, I'd probably just spend the next few years making a giant robot to murder everyone as well.
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Cybermat47 wrote:If I were the Black Hole Aliens, I would definitely want to destabilise the planet by giving nukes to terrorists, it would make invading so much easier. And if that didn't work, I'd probably just spend the next few years making a giant robot to murder everyone as well.
Egads, that's brilliant! And bound to suceed as long as some obscure patron deity of a random near-extinct family line doesn't suddenly become the most important thing in the whole wide world even though a whole island full of other monsters still exists! And after all, what are the odds of that happening...? ;)
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If I remember correctly, the Red Bamboo commander played by Jun Takazi mentions receiving orders from his superiors, which makes me think that the Red Bamboo on Letchi Island is either just a cell of a larger organization or is being funded by a more powerful outside force. The Red Bamboo at the very least aren't just a single independent terrorist cell.
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Cybermat47 wrote:Just a heads up, the correct term is "loose ends". You tie up loose ends :)
Pffft, yeah... I was really high when I made this thread :lol:
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PitchBlackProgress wrote:
Just who was pulling the strings for the Red Bamboo and what became of them? What became of the Commander of Planet X when he exclaimed he was "Escaping Into The Future"? What became of the survivor in Matango who was shown to be partially infected? Was Latitude Zero real, or was it just a dream?
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King of the Monsters wrote:If I remember correctly, the Red Bamboo commander played by Jun Takazi mentions receiving orders from his superiors, which makes me think that the Red Bamboo on Letchi Island is either just a cell of a larger organization or is being funded by a more powerful outside force. The Red Bamboo at the very least aren't just a single independent terrorist cell.
This coupled with their name suggests a connection with Communist China. My guess would be they're a paramilitary organization secretly backed either by the Chinese government or by high ranking individuals within the Red Army. Their long term goal was probably the destruction of China's enemies through nuclear weapons; the Red Bambo would take the blame and spare China any nuclear repraisals. If they were an insurrectionist group, their goal may have been to rest power from the Communist Party and take control of state themselves.
2- He hoped the Xiliens would one day in the future be able to succeed where his own efforts to take over the Earth failed?
3- In the short story Matango is based on, The Voice in the Night, the stranger narrating his awful experience decides to return to the island and accept his fate rather than expose the rest of mankind to the fungal infection. Our survivor in Matango probably didn't have that opportunity but if he escaped or was released that perhaps was his plan. That or the Matango ultimatly spread throughout Japan and had to be surpressed by mass purging of the infected.
4- Latitude Zero is real.

Here's a loose end- what happened to the second Hedorah?
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I'm not sure if this counts as a "loose end", but what do y'all suppose happened to Dr. Yamane after the events of Godzilla Raids Again?
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That Black Hole Planet 3 theory is excellent!

I feel that multiple Gargantuans would grow from all those pieces of skin blasted off of Gaira in the maser forest assault.
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that is another loose end I forgot about, what became of the surviving Hedorah?
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I think it's a hyphen, as in:
1- first item
2- second item
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Ivo-goji wrote: This coupled with their name suggests a connection with Communist China. My guess would be they're a paramilitary organization secretly backed either by the Chinese government or by high ranking individuals within the Red Army. Their long term goal was probably the destruction of China's enemies through nuclear weapons; the Red Bambo would take the blame and spare China any nuclear repraisals. If they were an insurrectionist group, their goal may have been to rest power from the Communist Party and take control of state themselves.
Yeah I definitely think there was supposed to be a link between the Red Bamboo and Communist China. Their fighter jets are even Shenyang J-6s, which are Chinese. I think your guess about their purpose and intentions is pretty solid, and is what I'd probably guess too.
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I never actually saw the Red Bamboo as Chinese, that's really interesting, and that's probably partially the reason why they haven't been brought back despite being the only memorable human anatongists (akin to the countless alien races).

Anyways, in regards to Hedorah, it's easy to just accept that Japan cut back on pollution to essentially choke the monster, and anytime that bigger Hedorahs showed up, the same electricity fryer was used. They were rushed and kinda not prepared to fight Hedorah to begin with and a large part of the film was trying to find weaknesses.
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I've always wonder what happened to the nation of Rolisica after MOTHRA? After that movie, nobody mentioned it.
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GodzillaBurgh wrote:I've always wonder what happened to the nation of Rolisica after MOTHRA? After that movie, nobody mentioned it.
The western part seceded into the United States of America, while the eastern part was renamed the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics.
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GodzillaBurgh wrote:I've always wonder what happened to the nation of Rolisica after MOTHRA? After that movie, nobody mentioned it.
No one mentioned the nation that the princess was from in gtthm either. I mean there's kinda no purpose. Someace like Montreal is never mentioned in the Showa Series, but there's no reason why it shouldn't exist within the world right?
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I never thought about eh Red Bamboo as Chinese, but it would fit for them. The island was only a heavy water factory, so they had to have other bases and resources in the world.

I imagine the sole survivor in Matango was kept locked up by the authorities. They certainly wouldn't want him infecting others.

As to Gaira, his pieces could well form other Gargantuas if they had access to some sort of nutrients.
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