What if they continue the Showa era
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What if they continue the Showa era
This is just a "what if" topic, nothing to take seriously here
What if they brought back the showa era, at least for one movie. Just because the 60s and 70s are over doesn't mean we can't have it take place in 2010s.
I mean, Godzilla against Mechagodzilla and Tokyo SOS took place in the same timeline as Mothra, War of the Gargantuas and Rodan.
If it were to happen where should it take place after Destroy all monsters?
What do you think? What stories you feel like the Showa era has left to tell?
What if they brought back the showa era, at least for one movie. Just because the 60s and 70s are over doesn't mean we can't have it take place in 2010s.
I mean, Godzilla against Mechagodzilla and Tokyo SOS took place in the same timeline as Mothra, War of the Gargantuas and Rodan.
If it were to happen where should it take place after Destroy all monsters?
What do you think? What stories you feel like the Showa era has left to tell?
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Re: What if they continue the Showa era
A last grand alien invasion movie, but with Earth in control of the kaiju from square one.
I have this vision in my mind of a giant Ghoten-esque space ship opening its cargo doors... out of a shaft of light descends Godzilla like a paratrooper. Pan outward, there are a dozen similar craft releasing Anguirus, Mothra, Baragon, etc upon a city-sized alien mothership...
I have this vision in my mind of a giant Ghoten-esque space ship opening its cargo doors... out of a shaft of light descends Godzilla like a paratrooper. Pan outward, there are a dozen similar craft releasing Anguirus, Mothra, Baragon, etc upon a city-sized alien mothership...
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Re: What if they continue the Showa era
Omg. That does sound very Showa. I would really like this to be made.Ivo-goji wrote:A last grand alien invasion movie, but with Earth in control of the kaiju from square one.
I have this vision in my mind of a giant Ghoten-esque space ship opening its cargo doors... out of a shaft of light descends Godzilla like a paratrooper. Pan outward, there are a dozen similar craft releasing Anguirus, Mothra, Baragon, etc upon a city-sized alien mothership...
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Re: What if they continue the Showa era
Honestly, if they do make at least one film continuing the Showa era, I think Godzilla's personality will be a lot more jaded. He's not gonna be jumping around. I mean, look at him in Terror of MechaGodzilla, he had a more aggressive look on his face. But he's still gonna be the "hero" of humanity.
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Re: What if they continue the Showa era
I would like them to fill in some gaps by going back into the past in the Showa universe while also moving ahead with new ones as well! I would start with going back into the early 70's with a sequel to Godzilla vs Hedorah 2, followed by a 2nd season of Zone Fighter after that I would set the rest in present/future.
One idea I had is Gabra as a real nightmare monster who terrorizes kids, adults and other monsters alike in their nightmares. He would basically be the Freddy Krueger version of giant monsters who haunts you in your nightmares. It will take a few monsters to stop him, Godzilla, Rodan and Varan would fight him in the real world while King Caesar takes him on alone in the dream world.
Seeing how he is losing his grip in both the dream world and the real world!
Gabra does the unthinkable and uses his dream warping reality powers to bring back the once dead King Ghidorah, with the King Of Terror back alive and even more powerful then before. He wages an all out war on the other monsters while King Caesar and Gabra continue to battle in the dream world.
King Caesar is finally able to beat Gabra in the dream world and sever his connection to King Ghidorah who is no longer controlling him! It's not to long after that he decides to fly away leaving Gabra to defend himself who is still physical in the real world as well and then gets beaten by the other monsters.
Godzilla kills him by burning up his entire body and it seems that Gabra is no more. As Godzilla swims away we see the moon in the sky with an image of Gabra face with his big slimy tongue hanging out with long pointed teeth as he smiles downward singling that Gabra may yet still somehow be alive after all?
One idea I had is Gabra as a real nightmare monster who terrorizes kids, adults and other monsters alike in their nightmares. He would basically be the Freddy Krueger version of giant monsters who haunts you in your nightmares. It will take a few monsters to stop him, Godzilla, Rodan and Varan would fight him in the real world while King Caesar takes him on alone in the dream world.
Seeing how he is losing his grip in both the dream world and the real world!
Gabra does the unthinkable and uses his dream warping reality powers to bring back the once dead King Ghidorah, with the King Of Terror back alive and even more powerful then before. He wages an all out war on the other monsters while King Caesar and Gabra continue to battle in the dream world.
King Caesar is finally able to beat Gabra in the dream world and sever his connection to King Ghidorah who is no longer controlling him! It's not to long after that he decides to fly away leaving Gabra to defend himself who is still physical in the real world as well and then gets beaten by the other monsters.
Godzilla kills him by burning up his entire body and it seems that Gabra is no more. As Godzilla swims away we see the moon in the sky with an image of Gabra face with his big slimy tongue hanging out with long pointed teeth as he smiles downward singling that Gabra may yet still somehow be alive after all?
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Re: What if they continue the Showa era
They already did. It was Final Wars. It's totally 100% a tribute to the Showa series.
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Re: What if they continue the Showa era
^Not what's being discussed. We're talking literal sequel to Terror of Mechagodzilla or DAM.
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Re: What if they continue the Showa era
I would love that, but it must be done correctly.
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Re: What if they continue the Showa era
I think It would be interesting if Minya got a temporary mother figure in the form of some sort of angelic bird-like monster, maybe some kind of Phoenix kaiju that dies/leaves before Dam takes place. Also what if we got to see the true fate of Zone fighter, maybe Godzilla and Zone killed Megalon (they stole Gigan, so why not Megalon?) and fought an army of terror beasts but Zone fighter dies? maybe Showa G gradually became bitter because most of his friends at the time keep leaving/dying?
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Re: What if they continue the Showa era
I actually have a story like this going on in my head right now. It takes place 20 years after the events of DAM, an adult Minya has been exiled by his father, while Godzilla himself is starting to grow old and weary a las Wolverine in Logan. Meanwhile, the Black Hole Aliens set the stage for a third invasion of Earth with a perfected Mechagodzilla...
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Re: What if they continue the Showa era
Gamera VS Godzilla.
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Re: What if they continue the Showa era
^ And Godzilla (1954). All of those monsters are part of the continuity, but their respective movies, aren't. Other monsters are part of the continuity as well, such as Varan and Maguma, (there is a Japanese book that lists all of them with pictures, along with the years that they attacked Japan; which are nearly all different than the years their movies came out). To be fair though, I'm almost certain the exact events of Mothra (1961) (along with Godzilla '54, of course) are in fact canon with the Kiryu timeline.RollDaDice wrote: I mean, Godzilla against Mechagodzilla and Tokyo SOS took place in the same timeline as Mothra, War of the Gargantuas and Rodan.
I think so, yeah. That would leave the door open to the monsters and aliens introduced in the '70s films. Obviously King Ghidorah (and I suppose Titanosaurus) would be dead, and having Mechagodzilla be rebuilt and show up again would be complete overkill, so we wouldn't want that, but other elements or characters from the '70s films could play a role somehow.If it were to happen where should it take place after Destroy all monsters?
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Re: What if they continue the Showa era
There's obviously no 'contiuing' the Showa era, and I think it would be silly to play timeline/continuity games with an era that never concerned itself with those things. That being said, I would love a return to the tone of these older films, particularly along the lines of 60's entries like Mothra vs. Godzilla or Son of Godzilla - a nice blend of silly and serious. It's never going to happen, though. We're stuck with Grittyzilla now.
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Re: What if they continue the Showa era
I dont know, I guess Hedorah would return, he's the only loose tie in the series
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Thinking about it, the whole situation with the Red Bamboo was never resolved either, so there's that
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Re: What if they continue the Showa era
Like Tymon above, I don't see any point in trying to work in continuity with movies that were themselves not concerned with maintaining continuity. That strikes me as a particularly absurd kind of fanwank.
I also don't think there's a way of organically going backwards tonally/stylistically. Emulating a past era might be a fun, entertaining exercise, but it would be affected in a way those movies were not (as Final Wars demonstrated). That doesn't mean that I think the series is locked into a grimdark trajectory forever, mind you. But the franchise will always adapt to the times.
I also don't think there's a way of organically going backwards tonally/stylistically. Emulating a past era might be a fun, entertaining exercise, but it would be affected in a way those movies were not (as Final Wars demonstrated). That doesn't mean that I think the series is locked into a grimdark trajectory forever, mind you. But the franchise will always adapt to the times.
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Re: What if they continue the Showa era
Toho should make a short film or something that truly honors the Showa Era. Heck, even a video game could work- something like Transformers: Devastation.
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Re: What if they continue the Showa era
Showa Gamera and Godzilla would never fight post-1964 though, they're both heroes. Now a Showa Godzilla-Gamera team-up, THAT would be badass.Cybermat47 wrote:Gamera VS Godzilla.
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One would assume that to be true. But in 21st-century logic *coughBatmanvSupermanCaptainAmericaCivilWarLegendaryGodzillavsKingKongcough*, no such principle applies. I mean, in the showa era they wouldn't have, but if this were set in the showa universe but being made by the wonky reasoning of the modern world, all it takes is a slight misunderstanding or conflict of interest, and boom- they'll literally be trying to murder each other.KaijuCanuck wrote:Showa Gamera and Godzilla would never fight post-1964 though, they're both heroes. Now a Showa Godzilla-Gamera team-up, THAT would be badass.
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MOTHRAAAAAAA!!!! YOU HAVE TO SAVE MOTHRAAAAA!!!!Zarm wrote:One would assume that to be true. But in 21st-century logic *coughBatmanvSupermanCaptainAmericaCivilWarLegendaryGodzillavsKingKongcough*, no such principle applies. I mean, in the showa era they wouldn't have, but if this were set in the showa universe but being made by the wonky reasoning of the modern world, all it takes is a slight misunderstanding or conflict of interest, and boom- they'll literally be trying to murder each other.KaijuCanuck wrote:Showa Gamera and Godzilla would never fight post-1964 though, they're both heroes. Now a Showa Godzilla-Gamera team-up, THAT would be badass.
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MOTHRAAAAAAA!!!! YOU HAVE TO SAVE MOTHRAAAAA!!!![/quote]KaijuCanuck wrote: One would assume that to be true. But in 21st-century logic *coughBatmanvSupermanCaptainAmericaCivilWarLegendaryGodzillavsKingKongcough*, no such principle applies. I mean, in the showa era they wouldn't have, but if this were set in the showa universe but being made by the wonky reasoning of the modern world, all it takes is a slight misunderstanding or conflict of interest, and boom- they'll literally be trying to murder each other.
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