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When the male Rodan lost the female Rodan, he decided he needed a child to fill the void.
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Missingno. wrote:I... I've given up. Giant Condor became the Giant Eagle, there was apparently two MOGUERAs in GvSG, and now this. What's next, we learn that Jet Jaguar really is King Kong in a robot suit?!
Wait! There were two MOGUERAS in GvsSG, can someone send me a link to this discussion.
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GodzillaFan1996 wrote:Wait! There were two MOGUERAS in GvsSG, can someone send me a link to this discussion.
Kind of. Look no further than: http://www.tohokingdom.com/kaiju/moguera_heisei.htm#m (Scroll down for Moguera II - SRF)
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This gives me a mental image of Rodan regurgitating food into a Baby Baragon's mouth :P

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B34sT wrote:This gives me a mental image of Rodan regurgitating food into a Baby Baragon's mouth :P
*Rubs eyes* Now someone is gonna draw that...
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I'm curious to know where this information came from. Not that I doubt its validity.
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Showa Gyaos wrote:I'm curious to know where this information came from. Not that I doubt its validity.
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The fact related to Baragon being born in the Gunma Prefecture and raised by Rodan comes from the 1993 publication Everything About Godzilla Movies (ISBN 9784054002166). The book does not note which Baragon its talking about, but is assumed to be the one from Destroy All Monsters (1968) which would have more naturally come into contact with Rodan.
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When the male Rodan lost the female Rodan, he decided he needed a child to fill the void.
I never thought I'd use this image on this board in my cynical old age, but by God...
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But ... wasn't the idea of two differently gendered Rodan purely a product of the U.S. cut?

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When the male Rodan lost the female Rodan, he decided he needed a child to fill the void.
I never thought I'd use this image on this board in my cynical old age, but by God...
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But ... wasn't the idea of two differently gendered Rodan purely a product of the U.S. cut?
Was it? I mean, I don't remember it being outright stated in the Japanese cut the way it is in the U.S. version, but I always interpreted it that way. Maybe that's just because the U.S. cut had already so completely defined the way I read the movie.
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eabaker wrote:Was it? I mean, I don't remember it being outright stated in the Japanese cut the way it is in the U.S. version, but I always interpreted it that way. Maybe that's just because the U.S. cut had already so completely defined the way I read the movie.
Now I want to watch it again to make sure, but I distinctly remember waiting for that line to come up the first time I saw the Japanese version, and it never does. I don't remember it even being implied. I think the U.S. cut also inserts some dialogue at the end about their being mates which is definitely not present in the original.

For what it's worth, even the Wikipedia synopsis (a fairly detailed one) makes no mention of them being mates or different genders. It's just "a second Rodan."

I do think it's a change for the better, though, so kudos to King Brothers.

EDIT -- Wikipedia does mention them being "mates" in the very last sentence of its synopsis. Maybe someone else can weigh in. I'll have to keep an eye out for this next time I watch it.
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eabaker wrote:Was it? I mean, I don't remember it being outright stated in the Japanese cut the way it is in the U.S. version, but I always interpreted it that way. Maybe that's just because the U.S. cut had already so completely defined the way I read the movie.
Now I want to watch it again to make sure, but I distinctly remember waiting for that line to come up the first time I saw the Japanese version, and it never does. I don't remember it even being implied. I think the U.S. cut also inserts some dialogue at the end about their being mates which is definitely not present in the original.

For what it's worth, even the Wikipedia synopsis (a fairly detailed one) makes no mention of them being mates or different genders. It's just "a second Rodan."

I do think it's a change for the better, though, so kudos to King Brothers.
Yeah, I mean, the basic contrast of the unity of the Rodans - one preferring to die with the other rather than live alone - with the squabbling and fighting among the humans doesn't require them to be mates, but the ending - and in particular Shigeru and Kiyo's reactions - definitely has a lot more resonance if they are mates.
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Kinda strange that Rodan would take a surrogate like Baragon given how vastly different they are but such a thing is not uncommon in the real world. Either way, it's still kind of cute.
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The Rodan 'mates' is kind of a better plot element than simply a second monster, anyway. I've only seen the english cut, but it's a nice little detail.

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As a Baragon fan, all I can say is.....wow.
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With its friend gone, Rodan must have been lonely. It's not impossible for two different animals, or even species, to become friends. Baragon has always struck me as a solitary creature, but I suppose Baragon wouldn't mind Rodan sharing food and territory.
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I guess so…
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