Worst Showa film besides Godzilla's Revenge and Megalon?
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Worst Showa film besides Godzilla's Revenge and Megalon?
Whenever people are asked "what's the worst Godzilla movie?" they are usually told "Godzilla's Revenge" or "Godzilla vs Megalon". Now both of those films have elements that rightfully earn them scorn, I don't think either one of them is nearly as bad as most people say.
What Showa movies do you hold as being "the worst" besides the two most popular choices? (Waits for inevitable Godzilla Raids Again hate-fest)
My vote goes to Mothra vs Godzilla, but its so hard to put my finger on what I absolutely hate about that movie so its not worth explaining.
I personally feel that Godzilla vs Hedorah is the most poorly directed Godzilla film, due to its complete lack of characterization, its episodic and disjointed plot, its incoherent and absurd monster "battles" and its utter failure to establish a proper tone. The movie deserves some credit for trying to employ a psychedelic art-film approach, which could have actually been really cool. Instead the movie has a gray, depressing look to it, and most of the miniature sets are uninspired. The bizarre use of cartoons, multiple tv screens, and acid trip imagery serve no purpose other than to distract from the plot and add a superficial layer of "style" over what is actually one of the least engaging human elements to date (who are these people, and what motivates them? why does nobody care when Ken's older brother/cousin/friend dies?) and one of the most poorly paced and choreographed monster battles. I honestly can't believe anyone would call this "the best of the '70's Godzilla movies".
Terror of Mechagodzilla is another runner-up. It makes an attempt to be "dark n gritty", but comes across as overly brooding and lifeless, with bland characters, a soap-opera human plot ("Katsura, even if the aliens turned you into a cyborg and put the Mechagodzilla controller in your uterus, I still love you!" *Katsura shoots herself*) and the absolute worst pacing in a non-SpaceGodzilla movie. Neither Godzilla nor Mechagodzilla gets enough screen time, and Mechagodzilla is neutered to make Titanosaurus look more powerful. Godzilla lacks any character presence, and all the monster action feels abortive, like either Honda was trying his hardest not to show the monsters, or they ran out of budget mid scene. Throw in one of the most repetitive and lethargic Ifukube scores (in spite of some impressive themes) and you have the third-worst Showa movie.
Honorable mention goes to Ghidorah the three headed monster for having a bizarre, disjointed plot, weak acting, bad pacing, and less monster action than "the greatest battle on earth" part of the Japanese title would suggest.
What Showa movies do you hold as being "the worst" besides the two most popular choices? (Waits for inevitable Godzilla Raids Again hate-fest)
My vote goes to Mothra vs Godzilla, but its so hard to put my finger on what I absolutely hate about that movie so its not worth explaining.
I personally feel that Godzilla vs Hedorah is the most poorly directed Godzilla film, due to its complete lack of characterization, its episodic and disjointed plot, its incoherent and absurd monster "battles" and its utter failure to establish a proper tone. The movie deserves some credit for trying to employ a psychedelic art-film approach, which could have actually been really cool. Instead the movie has a gray, depressing look to it, and most of the miniature sets are uninspired. The bizarre use of cartoons, multiple tv screens, and acid trip imagery serve no purpose other than to distract from the plot and add a superficial layer of "style" over what is actually one of the least engaging human elements to date (who are these people, and what motivates them? why does nobody care when Ken's older brother/cousin/friend dies?) and one of the most poorly paced and choreographed monster battles. I honestly can't believe anyone would call this "the best of the '70's Godzilla movies".
Terror of Mechagodzilla is another runner-up. It makes an attempt to be "dark n gritty", but comes across as overly brooding and lifeless, with bland characters, a soap-opera human plot ("Katsura, even if the aliens turned you into a cyborg and put the Mechagodzilla controller in your uterus, I still love you!" *Katsura shoots herself*) and the absolute worst pacing in a non-SpaceGodzilla movie. Neither Godzilla nor Mechagodzilla gets enough screen time, and Mechagodzilla is neutered to make Titanosaurus look more powerful. Godzilla lacks any character presence, and all the monster action feels abortive, like either Honda was trying his hardest not to show the monsters, or they ran out of budget mid scene. Throw in one of the most repetitive and lethargic Ifukube scores (in spite of some impressive themes) and you have the third-worst Showa movie.
Honorable mention goes to Ghidorah the three headed monster for having a bizarre, disjointed plot, weak acting, bad pacing, and less monster action than "the greatest battle on earth" part of the Japanese title would suggest.
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Godzilla vs King Kong. Its just so odd King Kong with the power of thunder? The only reason godzilla loses is because hes the bad guy
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Godzilla Raids Again. The pacing is so poor that it almost puts me to sleep. I feel for absolutely none of the characters. The monster suits are horrible and the way the monsters are shot is really cheap looking and not cinematic. The score is mostly bland. The human drama drags and sometimes there are pointless scenes, like the escaping prisoners. Everything in this movie just screams "half-assed!" to me.
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I personally enjoy the monster scenes in Godzilla Raids Again. I love how wild, fast-paced, and brutal Godzilla and Anguirus's battles look. And some of the shots look pretty cool too, like when the pilots first discover the two monsters fighting each other on the island.
But everything else about Godzilla Raids Again disappoints me. I don't think it's so bad that it's unwatchable, but I don't really care for the human characters and I thought most of the non-monster scenes were a little too slow and boring.
I actually enjoy Godzilla's Revenge and Godzilla vs Megalon, so on a personal level I wouldn't consider them the worst Showa Godzilla films.
But everything else about Godzilla Raids Again disappoints me. I don't think it's so bad that it's unwatchable, but I don't really care for the human characters and I thought most of the non-monster scenes were a little too slow and boring.
I actually enjoy Godzilla's Revenge and Godzilla vs Megalon, so on a personal level I wouldn't consider them the worst Showa Godzilla films.
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Gotta agree with 20th Century Boy on this one. Although I still like GRA, it just feels like a piss poor sequel to a great film to me. The human characters fuckin' suck ass and so does the music. The only things that make up for it are the Godzilla suit and the fact that Anguirus is in it.
I gotta say, I'd much rather watch Godzilla's Revenge or Godzilla vs. Megalon anyday.
I gotta say, I'd much rather watch Godzilla's Revenge or Godzilla vs. Megalon anyday.
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My vote would be for either Gigan or Hedorah. I still enjoy them but they are at the bottom of my list.
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For me I'd have to say All Monsters Attack. I know what they were going for, but the ending left a pretty bad taste in my mouth. Ichiro stands up for himself and then gains the friendship of the children who have been tormenting him by in turn being a total dick to some hapless painter.
Still, I enjoy all of the Godzilla movies so labeling them the "worst" doesn't really mean much to me.
Still, I enjoy all of the Godzilla movies so labeling them the "worst" doesn't really mean much to me.
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The title says "Worst Showa Film Besides Godzilla's Revenge and Megalon".KaijuAlertSystem wrote:For me I'd have to say All Monsters Attack. I know what they were going for, but the ending left a pretty bad taste in my mouth. Ichiro stands up for himself and then gains the friendship of the children who have been tormenting him by in turn being a total dick to some hapless painter.
Still, I enjoy all of the Godzilla movies so labeling them the "worst" doesn't really mean much to me.
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Megalon is far from the worst. It's corny, yes, but an entertaining piece of corn.
On topic, I'd have to say Godzilla Raids Again. The movie does drag in parts. The pacing between scenes does make it seem longer than it actually is, but when you get to the monster scenes it picks up.
On topic, I'd have to say Godzilla Raids Again. The movie does drag in parts. The pacing between scenes does make it seem longer than it actually is, but when you get to the monster scenes it picks up.
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King Kong Vs Godzilla in my opinion anyway is FAR from being the worst Showa film besides GR and GvsM, it's actually one of the best in my eyes, if I had to pick one I would go with raids again.S9y wrote:Godzilla vs King Kong. Its just so odd King Kong with the power of thunder? The only reason godzilla loses is because hes the bad guy
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I like Megalon way more than Son of Godzilla.
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Isn't Megalon more childish and upbeat than Son of Godzilla, though? I mean, Godzilla shakes hands with a grinning robot and saves the day from a pair of alien can openers! Son of Godzilla had a much more serious story, even with Minya. XDGamera vs Rodan wrote:I like Megalon way more than Son of Godzilla.
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I don't like that Son of Godzilla is all on Monster Island and all the monsters they fight are way too gross looking, especially the spider, which I have trouble even looking at.Dust_pan wrote:Isn't Megalon more childish and upbeat than Son of Godzilla, though? I mean, Godzilla shakes hands with a grinning robot and saves the day from a pair of alien can openers! Son of Godzilla had a much more serious story, even with Minya. XDGamera vs Rodan wrote:I like Megalon way more than Son of Godzilla.
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Oh. That explains it. I'm sure that Kumonga is the bane to many arachnophobic Godzilla fans.
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Yeah but I'm talking about All Monsters Attack, not Godzilla's Revenge. Totally different movies you see. I suppose in this case I'd have to say Godzilla vs the Sea Monster. Shrimpy and Big Bird don't do too much for me and it introduces some stuff I don't care for as the role was originally meant for Kong.Dr. Professor wrote:The title says "Worst Showa Film Besides Godzilla's Revenge and Megalon".
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This, so much this. It's a piss-poor effort from start to finish...I wish I could enjoy it for what it is, but it just puts me to sleep.20th Century Boy wrote:Godzilla Raids Again. The pacing is so poor that it almost puts me to sleep. I feel for absolutely none of the characters. The monster suits are horrible and the way the monsters are shot is really cheap looking and not cinematic. The score is mostly bland. The human drama drags and sometimes there are pointless scenes, like the escaping prisoners. Everything in this movie just screams "half-assed!" to me.
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Wow, I love Raids Again, personally.
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Another vote for GRA here.
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I love all films equally except GMK, and any other film where godzilla loses.
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So basically you don't like Gojira, Godzilla Raids Again, King Kong vs Godzilla, Mothra vs Godzilla, The Return of Godzilla, Godzilla vs Biollante, Godzilla vs King Ghidorah, Godzilla vs Mothra, Godzilla vs Destoroyah, GMK, Godzilla Against Mechagodzilla, and Tokyo SOS?S9y wrote:I love all films equally except GMK, and any other film where godzilla loses.
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