Monster Discussion #12: King Kong

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Re: What do you think of the KKvG version of Kong?

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It was a better suit than what we got in KKE.

Suit aside, Kong was a strong and intelligent kaiju. His physical prowess was equal to Godzilla's, but he showed more tactical skill. Overall, Kong's performance was pleasing.
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^ Agreed, his performance was what really sold it for me. Little things like him studying the burns he got from Godzilla. Or when he lured Godzilla down the mountain so he could hide and spring a surprise attack. That's what I loved about this Kong. This is my third favorite incarnation of him, next to Peter Jackson's and the original.
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I agree with edgaguirus and James23873. It's just too bad the suit looked as bad as it did.
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my favorite thing about the 62 kong was his ability to lengthen and shorten his arms at will, although we never did get to see this superpower happen on screne, just between shots.

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wrongnote85 wrote:my favorite thing about the 62 kong was his ability to lengthen and shorten his arms at will, although we never did get to see this superpower happen on screne, just between shots.
Can't tell if serious :lol:

Personally, I love Toho Kong. I saw the original KING KONG around the same time I saw KING KONG VS. GODZILLA as a kid, and I have always loved both versions of the character for different reasons. The Toho Kong has this orge-esqe quality to him that just works, IMO. As an interpretation of a giant great ape, he doesn't look very good, but Hirose's performance as Kong is so memorable, you almost forgive how "bad" it looks. I also thought that him being able to conduct, and be powered by electricity was actually pretty bad ass.
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wrongnote85 wrote:my favorite thing about the 62 kong was his ability to lengthen and shorten his arms at will, although we never did get to see this superpower happen on screne, just between shots.
That must be where the Indian guy from Master of the Flying Guillotine learned it...

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I adore Toho Kong. He was also the very first Bandai toy I ever bought. I love how Toho took everything traditional about the original and added their own flavor and spin to him (something Tri-Star didn't do with GINO). His suit is awful, but it holds some sort of charm for me and I wish this Kong had a few more movies to his belt. Really wish they made that KKvsG sequel in 1963. I also LOVE his roar.

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Dr. Nishiyama wrote:I adore Toho Kong. He was also the very first Bandai toy I ever bought. I love how Toho took everything traditional about the original and added their own flavor and spin to him (something Tri-Star didn't do with GINO). His suit is awful, but it holds some sort of charm for me and I wish this Kong had a few more movies to his belt. Really wish they made that KKvsG sequel in 1963. I also LOVE his roar.
I collect various Godzilla toys and I have always wanted a Toho Kong. Is it possible I could find it on Amazon or Ebay still? I have searched for a Toho Kong figure but no luck so far.

EDIT: I just found the Bandai 1993 Toho Kong figure but it's about 100 bucks on Amazon lol

Anyways I really don't think Kong's suit was as bad as a lot of people say it is. I think it is better than the one they used for King Kong Escapes.
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Even though the Kong suit for King Kong vs Godzilla looks pretty bizarre but the orge like face gives the suit its charm. However, Kong's performance in the film is pretty good and it far outweighs the goofiness of the suit's look.
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GodzillaDude wrote:
Dr. Nishiyama wrote:I adore Toho Kong. He was also the very first Bandai toy I ever bought. I love how Toho took everything traditional about the original and added their own flavor and spin to him (something Tri-Star didn't do with GINO). His suit is awful, but it holds some sort of charm for me and I wish this Kong had a few more movies to his belt. Really wish they made that KKvsG sequel in 1963. I also LOVE his roar.
I collect various Godzilla toys and I have always wanted a Toho Kong. Is it possible I could find it on Amazon or Ebay still? I have searched for a Toho Kong figure but no luck so far.

EDIT: I just found the Bandai 1993 Toho Kong figure but it's about 100 bucks on Amazon lol

Anyways I really don't think Kong's suit was as bad as a lot of people say it is. I think it is better than the one they used for King Kong Escapes.
You might be able to find an untagged Kong figure on the cheap somewhere. In a figure guide I saw a fews years ago, the price of an untagged Bandai Kong is around $45 or so. I got mine back in '94 from a catalog I found in a fanzine (Anyone on here heard of Club Daikaiju?). Funny enough, Godzilla '93 was my first choice but was out of stock at the time lol

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I've always liked this version of Kong. He's not my favorite kaiju by any means, but he stands out from the Toho crowd and and made for a very memorable opponent for Godzilla. Never minded the suit, either. It's limited and cheap-looking, but did what it needed to.

Also, he rammed a tree down Godzilla's throat. That alone has to earn him some points.
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Kong was a fierce fighter.
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Honestly he's my favorite version of Kong, and the first one I ever saw.
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Godz wrote:Honestly he's my favorite version of Kong, and the first one I ever saw.
Same with me. I had heard of who Kong was the first time I seen KKvG so he was the first version I saw as well. KKvG Kong is my favorite version of him even now.
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I'm one of the biggest fans of the showa era you can find, and the Kong suit in this film is...well...it's an embarassment. Really nothing good to say about it at all. If not for the cool, unique G suit, this film would have been hard for me to sit through (and I like this movie too...well, the Japanese version at least). As a kid and just getting into Godzilla, I was big dinosaur nut and loved the original King Kong, and when I found this on VHS and begged my parents to get it for me, I was thinking "Holy shit, Godzilla vs King Kong, it cannot get any better than this!", and then when I first saw Kong appear on screen....CRUSHED...haven't been the same since. :lol: :lol: :lol:

Of course, I have softened on my hatred of this suit over time and have just come to accept it (and one of my favorite non-G showa films is KKE, and its suit wasn't all that great either), but it's one of the few kaiju I do not own in figure form (nor really have plans to...but you never know, depends what mood I'm in if I come across a Bandai Kong...the times I have seen it, I didn't give it a second glance).
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Any one else think he looked more like an orangutan than a gorilla? His fur seemed to have a reddish orange tint to it.
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I agree, he did not look like a Gorilla at all, KINO looks more like a yeti/sasquatch.

I was truly dissapointed when I first saw it, the cover of the video had the real King Kong on it for crying out loud (American VHS)!

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My ideal version of Kong would be the peter Jackson Kong colored like the Toho Kong, with the Toho Roar and powers and the ability to stand upright when he needs to.

As far as the Toho Kong suit while he's not my favorite looking King Kong the look gets the job done and I wouldn't mind seeing this version of Kong appear in more Godzilla media in the future.
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menschenjaeger wrote:
wrongnote85 wrote:my favorite thing about the 62 kong was his ability to lengthen and shorten his arms at will, although we never did get to see this superpower happen on screne, just between shots.
That must be where the Indian guy from Master of the Flying Guillotine learned it...
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Zentenk wrote: I was truly dissapointed when I first saw it, the cover of the video had the real King Kong on it for crying out loud (American VHS)!
You got played, son.

It also features the Megaro-Goji (on the front), and the '84 incarnation on the back. Neither of the suits featured in the actual movie are on the packaging.
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