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Shhh! The Octopus wrote:Gwangi should have been a Tyrannosaurus Rex.
Funny you say this. The original version that was planned by Willis O'Brien, Harryhausen's mentor, originally had Gwangi as a T. rex. When the movie was recovered and made, Gwangi was made into an Allosaurus.

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Rhedosaurus wrote:
Shhh! The Octopus wrote:Gwangi should have been a Tyrannosaurus Rex.
Funny you say this. The original version that was planned by Willis O'Brien, Harryhausen's mentor, originally had Gwangi as a T. rex. When the movie was recovered and made, Gwangi was made into an Allosaurus.
Is it true that Harryhausen did not know and/or care about the difference?

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LegendZilla wrote:
Rhedosaurus wrote:
Shhh! The Octopus wrote:Gwangi should have been a Tyrannosaurus Rex.
Funny you say this. The original version that was planned by Willis O'Brien, Harryhausen's mentor, originally had Gwangi as a T. rex. When the movie was recovered and made, Gwangi was made into an Allosaurus.
Is it true that Harryhausen did not know and/or care about the difference?
In one of his books, The Art Of Ray Harryhausen, he wrote that he liked to mix both dinosaurs to make one. It's safe to say that he did know that T. rex was much larger then Allosaurus.

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I believe he only ever saw the difference between them in that one was bigger than the other
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Either way, the only real way to tell is the finger count. I like the idea that Gwangi is a hybrid of the two.
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Kino Lorber released One Million Years B.C. on Blu-ray a while back.

There were two versions of the film on it, the longer U.K. version and the shorter U.S. version. Can someone please tell me what was cut from the first one in the second one? And does the Blu-ray at least have the cut Brontosaurus and the Rock Tribe scene from the film as a special feature in it?
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^ I can't recall off the top of my head what was cut, but watching the comparisons on that disk I felt that the edits were rather random, including a few snippets of effects footage which made an action scene confusing. I have no idea what the logic was behind some of these cuts.

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Saw Valley of Gwangi again. Spectacular film that shows Ray at his finest.
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^It's a rather clever take on the King Kong premise, really, between the wildly different setting, the new moral angles of the cast, and the few religious motifs which show up. It's not a profound film or anything like that, but it's a solidly made film.
...And yeah, Harryhausen's dinosaurs look terrific here.

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Someone should make a remake or at least rerelease Gwangi like they did King Kong.

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Cryptid_Liker wrote:Someone should make a remake or at least rerelease Gwangi like they did King Kong.
I feel like a Valley of Gwangi remake would have to make Gwangi and all the other creatures really innacurate looking to have the same feeling the original had, even if ridicule from Feathernazis come into play. Adding in the Allosaurus horns to his design is fine, but seeing an incredibly realistic Allo just ain't Gwangi. Even his purple color scheme is just so iconic to him it be a shame to change it.

TBH though, One Million Years B.C is more fit to be remade.
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tyrantgoji wrote:
Cryptid_Liker wrote:Someone should make a remake or at least rerelease Gwangi like they did King Kong.
I feel like a Valley of Gwangi remake would have to make Gwangi and all the other creatures really innacurate looking to have the same feeling the original had, even if ridicule from Feathernazis come into play. Adding in the Allosaurus horns to his design is fine, but seeing an incredibly realistic Allo just ain't Gwangi. Even his purple color scheme is just so iconic to him it be a shame to change it.

TBH though, One Million Years B.C is more fit to be remade.
I've seen this art of what a modern day Gwangi could look like.
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Wow it's...extremely boring. I hope this never happens.
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I've seen more personality filled Allosaurus in documentaries.
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Cryptid_Liker wrote: I've seen this art of what a modern day Gwangi could look like.
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Yay for incredibly late reply because my computer decided to act up for no reason!

And yeah Gwangi is gonna need more life in his eyes than that. His expressions should be like that of the MonsterVerse Titans, anything less and he somehow looks more dead than his stop motion counterpart. :lol:
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tyrantgoji wrote:
Cryptid_Liker wrote: I've seen this art of what a modern day Gwangi could look like.
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Yay for incredibly late reply because my computer decided to act up for no reason!

And yeah Gwangi is gonna need more life in his eyes than that. His expressions should be like that of the MonsterVerse Titans, anything less and he somehow looks more dead than his stop motion counterpart. :lol:
Just know there's worse.
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Cryptid_Liker wrote: Just know there's worse.
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tyrantgoji wrote:
Cryptid_Liker wrote:Someone should make a remake or at least rerelease Gwangi like they did King Kong.
I feel like a Valley of Gwangi remake would have to make Gwangi and all the other creatures really innacurate looking to have the same feeling the original had, even if ridicule from Feathernazis come into play. Adding in the Allosaurus horns to his design is fine, but seeing an incredibly realistic Allo just ain't Gwangi. Even his purple color scheme is just so iconic to him it be a shame to change it.

TBH though, One Million Years B.C is more fit to be remade.
Yeah, seeing that it's already a far superior remake of One Million B.C. (1940) (which, believe it or not, is now on DVD at least (I'm surprised there's even a complete print of it left, seeing as how it was cut up for stock footage that was used in so many other films)).

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mikelcho wrote:[quote="tyryantgoji

TBH though, One Million Years B.C is more fit to be remade.
Yeah, seeing that it's already a far superior remake of One Million B.C. (1940) (which, believe it or not, is now on DVD at least (I'm surprised there's even a complete print of it left, seeing as how it was cut up for stock footage that was used in so many other films)).[/quote]

The original 1940 version's is just that one film that's so infamous that letting it fall into the test of time is a tragedy, although the method of how they made the "dinosaurs" is much more of a tragedy. (that poor monitor lizard..can't believe they just let it get killed)

A big budget remake that's a mix of both versions (minus animal cruelty) is the way to go.
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