The K.W.C. General Discussion Thread

[Kiryu2012]

Imagine if there was a Heisei Godzilla month and he never won any of his matches.

[SoggyNoodles2016]

Imagine if there was a Heisei Godzilla month and he never won any of his matches.

Beautiful......

[GodzillaFan1990's]

Lol imagine the salt that would harbor.

[HillyHulk]

Imagine if there was a Heisei Godzilla month and he never won any of his matches.

Given that this month was kind of controversial as is, that does not sound like fun...

[Kaltes-Herzeleid]

And have him lose to Gamera, Ultraman and Kong. Just for added burn.

[Moth]

I propose a Shin Godzilla month where he doesn't get a win.

Just so Facebook comments can lose their minds.

[ShinGojira14]

I propose a Shin Godzilla month where he doesn't get a win.

Just so Facebook comments can lose their minds.

I actually wonder; would they lose their minds...or just put their sunglasses on and have a field day with it?

From what I can tell, Shin Godzilla doesn’t seem to be everyone’s favorite incarnation of the Big G ‘round here... ... ...

If such a month actually happens, I will cry inside.

(Not really, but I’ll be a little bummed.)

[SoggyNoodles2016]

Shin needs to have matches in general before he can get a losing streak lmao.


Nah, what we need is to add Minilla and make sure he wins every match he's in.

Then will the KWC be balanced.

[GodzillavsRayquaza]

I think it’s more that people don’t mind Shin losing as much as the other Godzillas, probably because he’s usually depicted as the villain. His loss is a triumph over a deadly threat to the world, whereas with the other Godzillas it’s usually more so a heroic creature being brutally murdered.

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Also, the people who used to complain when Heisei lost and now complain when Legendary loses are children, and children either think along the lines “Shin Godzilla isn’t Godzilla, he’s Shin Godzilla, which is practically a different character” or just think Shin Godzilla’s a stupid movie that has too much talking and not enough large things hitting each other.

And yes I say used to complain when Heisei lost, because I think people don’t complain about that anymore because again, Legendary is the new Godzilla all the children love.

[ShinGojira14]

“Shin Godzilla isn’t Godzilla, he’s Shin Godzilla, which is practically a different character”

I don’t mean to point fingers or start a flame war by any means or anything, but I cannot tell you how painfully that particular saying gets on my nerves.

[HillyHulk]

“Shin Godzilla isn’t Godzilla, he’s Shin Godzilla, which is practically a different character”

I don’t mean to point fingers or start a flame war by any means or anything, but I cannot tell you how painfully that particular saying gets on my nerves.

Why? It doesn't sound that annoying though it is kind of ignorant.

[godjacob]

I personally am in the camp of "if the month is themed after a guy, I would like to actually see that Kaiju win" controversial concept I am sure.

Spoiler:

As far as the recent film goes, will Hollow Earth be added as an arena?

And yeah Legendary Mechagodzilla is distinct from Heisei Mechagodzilla so I am happy both are around. Even if I am not the biggest Heisei Mechagodzilla guy the mecha diversity can only be good for matches.

[GodzillavsJason]

Spoiler:

The Hollow Earth is absolutely allowed as an arena. It'd be a crime to not use it.

[godjacob]

Spoiler:

The Hollow Earth is absolutely allowed as an arena. It'd be a crime to not use it.

Spoiler:

Sweet should lead to some fun matches off the field alone.

I think it’s more that people don’t mind Shin losing as much as the other Godzillas, probably because he’s usually depicted as the villain. His loss is a triumph over a deadly threat to the world, whereas with the other Godzillas it’s usually more so a heroic creature being brutally murdered.

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Also, the people who used to complain when Heisei lost and now complain when Legendary loses are children, and children either think along the lines “Shin Godzilla isn’t Godzilla, he’s Shin Godzilla, which is practically a different character” or just think Shin Godzilla’s a stupid movie that has too much talking and not enough large things hitting each other.

And yes I say used to complain when Heisei lost, because I think people don’t complain about that anymore because again, Legendary is the new Godzilla all the children love.

To be fair on this, isn't it a KWC storyline (?) where Shin is being turned to the good by Mothra Leo? I feel Shin could easily be worked as a misunderstood being of suffering to sympathize with as he is a villainess hell spawn.

[SoggyNoodles2016]

I really disagree with the take Shin is a villian. Dude is suffering and in pain, simply exploring the world of humans and eventually retaliating when they hit back. There is nothing there outside original Godzilla's arc.

TBH, every match I'm working on with Shin basically gives him the full Showa arc from menace to sort of hero, so those people are gonna LOVE me

[GodzillavsRayquaza]

To be fair on this, isn't it a KWC storyline (?) where Shin is being turned to the good by Mothra Leo? I feel Shin could easily be worked as a misunderstood being of suffering to sympathize with as he is a villainess hell spawn.

Yeah. I wrote it lol


Shin in terms of character imo is very much down to what the writer wants to do. One can easily make him heroic after going down the path to redemption, one can make him just neutral and amoral, and one can make him outright vile and destructive to all except himself. He’s pretty much like every other incarnation of Godzilla that’s negatively effected by the atom bomb, confused, lost, angry, and in agony. Just depends on what happens to him afterwards.

I’m just saying that most people are gonna write him or expect to read him as the “god of destruction” or as something trying to overtake all life with his own spawn Godzilla Earth-style. And there’s nothing wrong with writing him like that, just depends on the skill of the author at the end of the day. Just, ya know, don’t write him exclusively as that. Variety, the spice of life, all that jazz.

[godjacob]

Sounds solid enough and hey variety is always a plus so I am for this.

To be fair on this, isn't it a KWC storyline (?) where Shin is being turned to the good by Mothra Leo? I feel Shin could easily be worked as a misunderstood being of suffering to sympathize with as he is a villainess hell spawn.

Yeah. I wrote it lol


Shin in terms of character imo is very much down to what the writer wants to do. One can easily make him heroic after going down the path to redemption, one can make him just neutral and amoral, and one can make him outright vile and destructive to all except himself. He’s pretty much like every other incarnation of Godzilla that’s negatively effected by the atom bomb, confused, lost, angry, and in agony. Just depends on what happens to him afterwards.

I’m just saying that most people are gonna write him or expect to read him as the “god of destruction” or as something trying to overtake all life with his own spawn Godzilla Earth-style. And there’s nothing wrong with writing him like that, just depends on the skill of the author at the end of the day. Just, ya know, don’t write him exclusively as that. Variety, the spice of life, all that jazz.

Can I say the anime canon's attempt to claim Godzilla Earth is not a bad guy in the third film feel....laughable, given out of all Godzilla's this one is one of the few to proactively seek out and destroy creatures and humans alike in a literal warpath to reshape the world in its own image? That is evil, just because Void Ghidorah is worse doesn't change this.

Random note but needed to vent lol

[ShinGojira14]

Should Warbat be added to the KWC, given how we've got the Skullcrawlers?

[godjacob]

Should Warbat be added to the KWC, given how we've got the Skullcrawlers?

Oh could be a fun addition.

Spoiler:

We do see one of them being able to give Kong some trouble, so they can defiantly be written to hang with the roster.

[Greyshot151]

Should Warbat be added to the KWC, given how we've got the Skullcrawlers?

Most likely, no. While very unique, the main problem is there is no single member amongst the group to really make it stand out. Gyaos had Super Gyaos. The Mutos had the male and the female. I think the closest we have to something like this is Gamines, so never say never.

I will say in general for anyone that may be curious to what I prefer for the KWC:

I think the last 6 years we've really been looking to the past to add new highly requested, rare or scrapped monsters. BUT, the new stuff is really starting to change that direction in my eyes. With new films and shows giving us access to awesome monsters, my general philosophy going forward is to look more and more to the future. We plan a year out so you won't see anything too drastic at the moment, but change is on the horizon. So Nazuki (the war bats), I think I would add over something super obscure from the past nowadays like Black Moth. As to be honest, THAT is what the new kaiju loving members of the community want to read about just as we did with the relatively fresh Heisei and Millennium monsters when we all found the KWC at its inception.