What Are Your Favorite Incarnations/Designs For Toho’s Big 5?

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Godzilla - 2016
Mothra - 1961
Rodan - 1956
King Ghidorah - 1964
Mechagodzilla - 1975
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Rodan - 1956
Mothra - MonsterVerse
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Godzilla: 1999-2000
Rodan- Monsterverse
Mothra-2003
King Ghidorah- Monsterverse
Mechagodzilla: 2002-2003
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:Godzilla68:: Kiryu Saga (second place is 1964)
:Mothra61:: Tokyo SOS
:KingGhidorah64:: vs Evangelion
:Rodan56:: Monsterverse
:Mechagodzilla74:: Transforming Mechagodzilla (second place is Kiryu)

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:Godzilla68: Godzilla VS Biollate or KOTM 2019.
:Mothra61: GMK.
:Rodan56: 1956 or 2019. I don't like the Heisei one, for some reason.
:KingGhidorah64: I like virtually all of them, but 1998 and 2019 are the best.
:Mechagodzilla74: 1974. I'll be honest and say that I don't vibe with Mechagodzilla much in general, but I do like the first one, and the Heisei one to a lesser degree.

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Godzilla: 1989

Mothra: 2003

Rodan: MonsterVerse

King Ghidorah: MonsterVerse

MechaGodzilla: 1974
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Keizer wrote: Fri Apr 09, 2021 8:53 am I don't like the Heisei one, for some reason.
Yeah, he just looks like a shaved seagull. Not even the best pterosaur Rodan can be.

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SImply talking about design and not their role in the story or how they acted:

Godzilla- 2003 (complete with the scar)
Mothra- 2003
Rodan- tie between 1956 and Monsterverse
King Ghidorah- Monsterverse
Mechagodzilla- Kiryu (Specifically Tokyo SOS version with that kickass grey backpack and drill hand)

Talking about incarnation and how they acted/featured in their movie

Godzilla- Shin, GMK, or Legendary. Idk, I like all Godzillas for different reasons.
Mothra- 1964
Rodan- 1964 or Monsterverse. He's a cheeky prick either way.
King Ghidorah- 1964 or Monsterverse
Mechagodzilla- 1974, easily. GvK a close second.

The Kiryu saga monsters have amazing designs but Godzilla's a brainless oaf, Kiryu works well enough but something feels empty about him and I'm not sure what it is, and Mothra is just there.

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Showa for all of them.

I do like Heisei and Final Wars Godzilla quite a lot though.


I think something is "lost in translation" with the Monsterverse designs. Godzilla's face looks square, feet look weird, and you can barely see his eyes. Rodan looks like a bird. Mothra looks like a wasp. And Ghidorah doesn't look nearly as asian inspired.
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Destoroyah of Worlds wrote: Sat Apr 10, 2021 9:13 pm Showa for all of them.

I do like Heisei and Final Wars Godzilla quite a lot though.


I think something is "lost in translation" with the Monsterverse designs. Godzilla's face looks square, feet look weird, and you can barely see his eyes. Rodan looks like a bird. Mothra looks like a wasp. And Ghidorah doesn't look nearly as asian inspired.
This. I hate how Godzilla’s got a tiny, square, nearly eyeless head. Rodan looks so weirdly proportioned, you wouldn’t be able to tell it was Rodan if it were shown with no context or no knowledge of the MonsterVerse. Mothra is my favourite design of the 6 in the MV tied with Kong. King Ghidorah (now I’ve said this a lot) looks too western for me. I’d have preferred the Asian dragon style of Showa. Then we have MG, who I think looks stupid as all hell. I hate his whole face and head, he’s got ridiculous, huge arms for no reason with monstrous hands, and his spines look so bland and boring.
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:Godzilla68: : Godzilla vs. SpaceGodzilla (1994)
:Mothra61: : Eternal Mothra from Rebirth of Mothra III (1998)? Maybe?
:KingGhidorah64: : Rebirth of Mothra III (1998), though I also really love "Shin" Ghidorah as well...
:Rodan56: : MonsterVerse design
:Mechagodzilla74: : "Ohrai" Mechagodzilla
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Incarnations:

:Godzilla68: : Tie between 1954 and Shin
:Mothra61: : Heisei
:Rodan56: : Showa, with Heisei and Final Wars leaning close
:KingGhidorah64: : Tie between Grand and Showa
:Mechagodzilla74: : Very close four-way tie between Showa, Heisei, Ready Player One and MonsterVerse

Designs:
:Godzilla68: : Four-way tire between ShodaiGoji, ShinGoji, RadoGoji and KiryuGoji. GyakushuGoji leans a close second.
:Mothra61: : TokyoMosuImago
:Rodan56: : ShodaiRado, with FinalRado leaning second
:KingGhidorah64: : Grand King Ghidorah, with both Shodai and Legendary being a close second
:Mechagodzilla74: : Tie between Kiryu, Ready Player One and Showa
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Godzilla - 1954, 1964, 1984, 1989-91, 2001, 2016
Mothra - 1961, 1964, 2001, 2003-04
King Ghidorah - 1964-65, Godzilla vs. Evangelion: The Real 4-D (2019)
Mechagodzilla - All of them, really. I also dig the Noriyoshi Ohrai and Yoji Shinkawa designs.
Rodan - 1956, 1964-65, 2019

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Okay, I already said my favorite designs so here's incarnations.

:Godzilla68:: Heisei
:Rodan56:: Monsterverse
:Mothra61:: Showa
:KingGhidorah64:: Monsterverse
:Mechagodzilla74:: Monsterverse

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I can give a top 5 designs for each:

:Godzilla68: :
1) KOTM/GvK (could do with a slightly bigger head and white-tipped spines tho)
2) KiryuGoji (of the two versions Tokyo SOS is my favourite, I like the scar)
3) DesuGoji
4) FinalGoji
5) 2014
(Taking in other factors like personality and abilities, my favourite incarnation is Monsterverse.)

:KingGhidorah64: :
1) KOTM (would like them tentacles back tho)
2) RaishuGhido
3) ShokogekiGhido
4) HeseiGhido
5) ShodaiGhido (admittedly more because of the design elements I would like to see brought back in future designs than the design quality of the actual suit. AniGhido isn't too far behind at #6)
(Taking in other factors like personality and abilities, my favourite incarnation is Monsterverse.)

:Mothra61: :
1) FinalMosuImago
2) TokyoMosuImago
3) KOTM (future incarnations should have a bit more fluff)
4) HeseiMosuImago
5) ShokogekiMosuImago
(Taking in other factors like personality and abilities, my favourite incarnation is Monsterverse.)

:Rodan56: :
1) KOTM
2) ShodaiRado
3) HeseiRado
4) SanDaikaijuRado
5) GyuraRado (specifically the "adult" version. Tbh I still think it violates one of the principles of a Rodan design, which is "give it an avian head cuz he ain't just a pterodactyl", but at least it looks cooler than that ugly-ass FinalRado design)
(Taking in other factors like personality and abilities, my favourite incarnation is Monsterverse.)

:Mechagodzilla74: :
1) KiryuMekaGoji (2002 version simply due to the more distinct colouring of the jetpack and shoulder cannons)
2) GvK
3) RP1
4) ShodaiMekaGoji
5) HeseiMekaGoji (I don't even hate AniMekaGoji it's just fundamentally kinda meh)
(Taking in other factors like personality and abilities, my favourite incarnation is Kiryu Duology.)

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^ Good lord, I didn’t realize the other monsters had suit names too. Can anyone translate that?
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^Based off of that last post I’m sure there’ll be more to come.

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Kaiju-King42 wrote: Sat Apr 17, 2021 11:50 pm ^ Good lord, I didn’t realize the other monsters had suit names too. Can anyone translate that?
Get this, there is:

GyakushuMekaGoji

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MekaGyakushuGoji

Btw, which ones do you want to translate? I can figure them out myself ;)
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Kaiju-King42 wrote: Sat Apr 17, 2021 11:50 pm ^ Good lord, I didn’t realize the other monsters had suit names too. Can anyone translate that?
Anything with "Shokogeki" in it's name refers to the designs from GMK, and anything with "Hesei" in it's name refers to the designs in the Hesei era (idk if those are actual suit names, I just saw the GvKG Ghidorah suit referred to as HeseiGhido and kinda ran with it. Gojipedia really needs to make it easier to access suit pages). Anything with "Kiryu" in it's name refers to the designs in the Kiryu Duology (with the exception of Mothra, which has "Tokyo" instead becuz she appears only in Tokyo SOS), and anything with "Shodai" in it's name refers to the designs in each creature's debut film.

"RaishuGhido" refers to the Grand King Ghidorah design in Rebirth of Mothra 3.

"SanDaikaijuRado" refers to the Rodan design used in the Showa Godzilla movies.

I came up with "GyuraRado" as a name for the Rodan designs in Singular Point (to my knowledge, there's no traditional design name for these bois, but the Godzilla design for SP has been named "GyuraGoji" by Japanese fans as a play on the pronunciation of "Singular" in Japan, so I just ran with that).

Anything that starts with "Ani" refers to the designs in the POTM trilogy (technically none made the list, but I did reference some as reaching #6).

Mothra has the added "Imago" at the end because I'm referring to her adult moth designs. I count Mothra Leo as a separate entity to Mothra, but if I didn't, many Mothra Leo designs would be in my Top 5.

Monsterverse designs don't have design names because at this point I'm more used to not using design names for the Monsterverse (although fan names do exist).
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